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Pearse's avatar

No respiratory virus has been shown to be contagious.

Its a well known fact that trials can be falsified to show a vaccine works.

A true scientist would be following up on the work of Dr Robert Edgar Hope-Simpson.

If a vaccine, whether traditional or mRNA based, works is pure lucky.

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Jennifer Smith, PhD's avatar

"No respiratory virus has been shown to be contagious." what are you basing this statement on? What is your background and knowledge of respiratory viruses derived from?

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Pearse's avatar

I can't find any that shows contagion. The nearest is this paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01780-9

Unfortunately its not natural contagion. This also brings up a serious issue in regards to the Wu et al paper of 2020. They used a machine to isolate the 37 pairs of a sequence from many samples they found in a hospital in Wuhan. Using another computer they drew up the complete sequence for the virus.

Now here is the real issue.

Has that sequence been double checked to see if the computer drew it up correctly?

Who has done it?

Where can that be checked and verified?

My believe is that sequence has never been checked nor can a computer draw up the same sequence that they published!

Also where as I don't have any particular issue in an emergency in the use of computers to find this information, where previously has a manual version of any virus been identified and a computer/s used to verified its existence,

My background? Well in March 2020 the media/government and basically anyone with a voice told me I was going to die from this virus or I was going to pass this on to someone else. So I had to read any scientific journal whether peer reviewed or opinions of medical professionals. Where as I don't know how many peer review papers I have read, I believe its over 1,500. (In Jan 2023 I believe there was over 172,000 papers published in regards to Saes Cov2) This includes where possible other researchers opinions on that published paper. While I don't have a certified paper saying I am intelligent. Dr Robert Edgar Hope-Simpson analysis of respiratory illness still stands. Sunlight is the key for prevention. The same still stands for Covid. The fact remains that a lot of effort was put in place to prevent people discussing that Sunlight prevent and cures respiratory illness. No its not a panacea for it. But nothing is. Good health and over all well being are also important.

Now that I have taken time to reply to your questions, perhaps you might have a link to proof on contagion. Too my knowledge the Welcome Foundation worked near Porton Down on the Salisbury Plain in the UK from the mid 1940s till 1989 and I don't see any proof of contagion. They had a unit called the "Common cold unit"

Many thanks

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Jennifer Smith, PhD's avatar

So let's say hypothetically you are correct and that there is no contagion. What is your alternate hypothesis? What made millions of people all over the world, including myself, sick? And how did labs all around the world happen to find the same sequence from specimens of patients that were ill? Computers don't make up sequences on their own. Have you read about the technique of sequencing? Sanger dye terminating sequencing method is based on basic scientific principles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTstRrDTmWI

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Pearse's avatar

Every year people have cold and flu symptoms in early winter but usually in late winter. (Reuters article from mid 2020 shows that Sars Cov 2 was in sewage system in Spain March 2019) no mass mortality till media got involved. Yet there is no scientific evidence published to show there is contagion. A paper published in Nov 2020 proved that asymptomatic spead was so low that is was incalculable. This should have been widely published to prevent fear. They did the research in Wuhan late spring while they had 9.5 million people locked in their home. That was the time to prove contagion. Unfortunately media was used as a weapon to put fear in people. Fear sold the vax to many, but not been allowed on holiday sold it to most.

Yes you will get sick with cold/flu symptoms. I suspect a pcr test was used to verify that you had covid. What or how was that test calibrated? To my knowledge a pcr test looks for 2 out 3 protein. If these show up its a positive test. There was many different tests by different companies. Not one test. If you tested an apple it could come back as positive. A test was sent to be tested. The specimen name was B. R. Amble. Took me a while to understand that the name is bramble, as in cooking apple.

And yes I understand sequencing I agree this is soundscientific method. The question is what are people sequencing, as contagion has never been shown. Are they sequencing what the body is discarding when they have cold/flu symptoms. (At one point in my life I thought that high cholesterol was bad, my understanding is now changing. Is cholesterol the byproduct of the heart healing?)

Yet has Wu et al paper been evaluated. Have you looked at the 37 pairs that they took from the 200 patients in Wuhan. Have you the facilities to draw up the complete sequence as published by the authors of that paper? Can you find someone to use that 37 pairs and draw up the published sequence.

Lots of questions.

Maybe I need to write to a veterinary University as they may have proof of contagion in animals/birds (bird flu)

P.S I was reminded this morning of the link between Sars Cov 2 and prion disease, do you know if this has been substantiated by research? By the way this is extremely important going forward. Thanks

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Jennifer Smith, PhD's avatar

There is a lot to unpack here. Please look at my other posts regarding PCR testing and this article I wrote: https://pandata.org/pcr-testing-skewed-and-corrupted-data-on-sars-cov-2-infection-and-death-rates/

There is a whole body of literature that shows contagion. for some examples of isolation of SARS-CoV-2 see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X20304274, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7366528/ & https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10096-020-03899-4

Here is what I firmly believe: 1. There was/is a virus (SARS). 2. People did get ill 3. Some people did die. Here is the caveat: was it as deadly as it was made out to be? NO. The response was not proportionate to the threat. The virus was a TOOL used to implement the new biosecurity state.

I hope this helps.

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hrabmv's avatar

so you think i would loose time over your cult beliefs? you should do some cleanup and build LOGIC into your Mind and God could help you there.

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